Saturday, May 16, 2009

Shame On Notre Dame


How can we say that Notre Dame isn't a Catholic University anymore? When they arrest a priest of God for coming on Our Lady's campus and praying Our Lady's Rosary.

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At Sunday, May 17, 2009 12:00:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, shame on people like you for creating this false controversy.

I didn't hear a peep out of people like you when Notre Dame had the Boy King as a commencement speaker in 2001. As governor, Bush presided over 152 executions - and apparently he did so with a very casual attitude, giving only minutes of thought to ending the life of a human being. Isn't the Catholic Church opposed to the death penalty? I believe the Catholic Church informally supported the Boy King in the 2004 election after he had started an illegal war in Iraq and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in order to "prove" himself to his daddy's friends. Don't even get me started on the millions that the Catholic Church has killed over the centuries in the name of ridding the world of heresy.

The first point is that the Catholic Church has very little moral superiority on any subject, much less the "sanctity of life" or other such canards. Secondly, Notre Dame is not a "Catholic only" school, but a school open to the public regardless of their beliefs. Even a heathen like me could get accepted if I was willing to live in the hell-hole that is South Bend, Indiana. They do not require that their students swear allegiance to any particular set of beliefs before they award them a diploma, so why should the commencement speaker be held to such a standard?

Face it Dave, you are a big, stinking sack of hypocrisy on all things Obama. I question whether you have ever actually read the very Bible you claim to have so much faith in. If so, I would suggest you go back and read it again - but this time pay attention to the actual words and the lessons therein.

 
At Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:04:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Catholic Church shamed by Irish abuse report

DUBLIN – After a nine-year investigation, a commission published a damning report Wednesday on decades of rapes, humiliation and beatings at Catholic Church-run reform schools for Ireland's castaway children.

The 2,600-page report painted the most detailed and damning portrait yet of church-administered abuse in a country grown weary of revelations about child molestation by priests.

The investigation of the tax-supported schools uncovered previously secret Vatican records that demonstrated church knowledge of pedophiles in their ranks all the way back to the 1930s.

Wednesday's five-volume report on the probe — which was resisted by Catholic religious orders — concluded that church officials shielded their orders' pedophiles from arrest amid a culture of self-serving secrecy.

"A climate of fear, created by pervasive, excessive and arbitrary punishment, permeated most of the institutions and all those run for boys. Children lived with the daily terror of not knowing where the next beating was coming from," Ireland's Commission to Inquire Into Child Abuse concluded.

Victims of the abuse, who are now in their 50s to 80s, lobbied long and hard for an official investigation. They say that for all its incredible detail, the report doesn't nail down what really matters — the names of their abusers.

"I do genuinely believe that it would have been a further step towards our healing if our abusers had been named and shamed," said Christine Buckley, 62, who spent the first 18 years of her life in a Dublin orphanage where children were forced to manufacture rosaries — and were humiliated, beaten and raped whether they achieved their quota or not.

The Catholic religious orders that ran more than 50 workhouse-style reform schools from the late 19th century until the mid-1990s offered public words of apology, shame and regret Wednesday. But when questioned, their leaders indicated they would continue to protect the identities of clergy accused of abuse — men and women who were never reported to police, and were instead permitted to change jobs and keep harming children.

The Christian Brothers, which ran several boys' institutions deemed to have harbored serial child molesters and sadists on their staff, insisted it had cooperated fully with the probe. The order successfully sued the commission in 2004 to keep the identities of all of its members, dead or alive, unnamed in the report. No real names, whether of victims or perpetrators, appear in the final document.

The Christian Brothers' leader in Ireland, Brother Kevin Mullan, said the organization had been right to keep names secret because "perhaps we had doubts about some of the allegations."

"But on the other hand, I'd have to say that at this stage, we have no interest in protecting people who were perpetrators of abuse," Mullan said, vowing to "cooperate fully with any investigation or any civil authority seeking to explore those matters."

Buckley, who said she was abused at an orphanage run by the Sisters of Mercy, which ran several refuges for girls where the report documented chronic brutality, said the religious orders for years branded the victims as money-seeking liars — and were incapable of admitting their guilt today.

She criticized Mullan for suggesting that "today, having read the report, he doesn't mind if the abusers are named and shamed. Isn't that a little bit late for us?"

 
At Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:05:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The report found that molestation and rape were "endemic" in boys' facilities, chiefly run by the Christian Brothers order, and supervisors pursued policies that increased the danger. Girls supervised by orders of nuns, chiefly the Sisters of Mercy, suffered much less sexual abuse but frequent assaults and humiliation designed to make them feel worthless.

"In some schools a high level of ritualized beating was routine. ... Girls were struck with implements designed to maximize pain and were struck on all parts of the body," the report said. "Personal and family denigration was widespread."

Ireland's myriad religious orders, much like their mother church, have been devastated by 15 years of scandals involving past cover-ups of abusers in their ranks.

The Christian Brothers have withdrawn from running several schools that still bear their name and the order has had few recruits in Ireland in the past two decades. Other orders are down to a handful of members, and their bases are closer to nursing homes than active missions.

"Most of these orders will literally die out in Ireland within the next generation or so," said Michael Kelly, editor of the Irish Catholic newspaper in Dublin. "Many of them are already in wind-up mode. They lack the confidence even to seek new vocations (recruits), due to the stigma associated with their members' shocking, scandalous behavior."

The Irish government, which in 1999 apologized for its role in permitting decades of abuse and established the commission to nail down the full truth of the matter, has tried to use money to bring closure to the victims.

A government-appointed panel has paid 12,000 survivors of the schools, orphanages and other church-run residences an average of $90,000 each — on condition they surrender their right to sue either the church or state. About 2,000 more claims are pending. Irish Catholic leaders cut a controversial deal with the government in 2001 that capped the church's contribution at $175 million — a fraction of the final cost.

Some victims emphasized, even as they began thumbing through the report, that nothing — not even criminal convictions of their long-ago tormentors — will ever put right their psychological wounds and make their nightmares go away.

Tom Sweeney, who spent five years in two Christian Brothers-run institutions where he was placed for truancy, says he suffered sexual abuse and beatings. He also has bitter memories about more everyday humiliations — such as being forced to wrap his urine-stained sheets around his neck and parade in front of other children when he'd wet his bed.

"It's something you'll never forget, the way you lived in these industrial schools," he said.

 
At Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:10:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So which is worse, Dave - Obama speaking at Notre Dame or the Vatican sanctioned pedophilia and child rape?

How can you read this article and have feeling of moral standing to criticize anything? Every dollar you put into the collection plate went to pay some child-raping agent of the Catholic Church.

No more of your fucking sanctimonious spewing of the morality of your beloved church. If I read anything of the sort, I guess it means that you approve of fucking young boys in the ass.

 

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