Tuesday, December 11, 2007

Obama ain't happenin'

After yesterday morning, I am secure in the knowledge that Barack Obama will never be elected President of the United States. How do I know this? A good cross-section of White Pine's community of "chronic voters" told me they won't be supporting Obama. Some readers may say sarcastically "that sounds like a real surprise in a small conservative East Tennessee town, Oatney." What made these revelations so politically convincing is that I heard these things from self-professed life long Democrats who, while living in what may be the reddest county in the reddest part of the State, take every opportunity to bash Republicans whenever they see an opportunity(whether the bashing is grounded in reality or not). The difference between these folks and the average Democratic "target voter" is that these guys will vote and they do not miss an election-I know because I have stood in line with some of them at the polling place waiting to vote.

They are the children of the Depression, of World War II, or Korea. Those who profess to be Democrats will often tell you that one or both of their parents were Dems, too. They and their families are old union people. Many served in the military, and not a few are retired from BASF/Inka, from Oak Ridge, or from the civil service. They aren't very happy with the present administration at all, and are not shy about saying so. I forget how the topic came up ( I didn't bring it up), but somehow when the discussion turned to Barack Obama yesterday morning at the Sanitary Drugstore-I think someone may have made a joke about Oprah and Obama-the reaction of the Democrats in the room turned to instant revulsion. One Democrat, someone who has never demonstrated anything to me but a heart of gold, said bluntly "I will not vote for that man, if he is the nominee I will vote Republican," he cringed. Most of the old boys have enough of a problem with Hillary, but the Dems swear they would sooner vote for her than for Obama.

Is it skin color? No...they all said it was because they were aware of his Muslim background and were simply uncomfortable having someone with a Muslim background (even though he now goes to a United Church of Christ) as President. It goes right back to whether voters have a religious test, and in today's climate you simply can't blame voters for feeling uncomfortable with a pseudo-Muslim as President.

I know that the Democratic Party places a premium on the youth vote, but at 18 kids are still relatively uninformed and unschooled in the ways of the world. Today's Democratic Party often relies on the uninformed voter to elect them-quantity over quality. Most 18-year-olds don't vote because they could care less about the future, they are invincible. Did I vote at 18? Yes, but I came from a family where civic responsibility was beat into my head at a young age, and by the time I made it to my first election, I knew what issues were important to me and just exactly why I was voting for the people that I chose. I took my responsibility seriously because I knew the future hung on the ballot I was casting, and I also knew that one day I might want to be on the ballot myself-I have never missed an election. Needless to say, I was in a minority at 18-most of my classmates didn't vote, and the ones who I knew that did also came from homes where the importance of informed voting was taught to them.

The fellows at the Sanitary not only vote reliably, they've been voting for years. They come from a couple of generations that are known for being very civic-minded and for being generations of joiners. If the Democrats among them say that they are not comfortable with Obama's background and they cannot support him because of it, then there is an awfully good chance that Barack Obama will not be the Democratic nominee.



At Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:38:00 PM, Blogger Sharon Cobb said...

I have to disagree with you on this.

I've never heard one Democrat mention anything about his childhood being relevant, and I support him, and I'm a practicing Jew. Furthermore, many other Jews support him.

Even if he were a Muslim, and he's not, it's outrageous and prejudice to think we wouldn't vote for him because of that.

Not every Muslim is a terrorist, and someone with the tiniest Muslim background could help cool the insanity in the world.

This Democrat, this Jew, supports him as do many Dems and Jews.

At Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:45:00 PM, Blogger A. Renee Daley said...


As much as it pained me to do, I defended Barack Obama on Saturday. I was at a family function, and some of the older among us started in with the I'm not voting for Obama because he's a Muslim rhetoric. One family member went so far as to say he was "a Muslim in sheep's clothing".

The whole religious intolerance thing from "Christian Conservatives" is REALLY starting to get to me.

I also had to defend Jeri Thompson against rumors that she was a stripper. Ugh.

At Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:52:00 PM, Blogger A. Renee Daley said...

Sorry for the double,

I also clarified to the family that Obama isn't a Muslim, and that he belongs to a Christian church.

At Friday, December 14, 2007 7:30:00 PM, Blogger SteveMule said...

You need to remember that when you spout a GOP talking point it doesn't have to be the truth - any more than a DEM talking point does. In this case the things about Obama being a Muslim and/or attending a Madras school as a youngster are blatently false and have been proven false many times - not that it keeps it from being a talking point. The point is to "poisen the well" - get a lot of people to believe something false because most of them won't take the time to check it out. Remember the thing awhile back about the Iranian Jews having to wear yellow stars? You can do your own checking this time - if your sense of truthiness will allow it.
Finally, your population sample is skwed - a few Dems in a red town, in a red district, in a red state don't decide which candidate gets the nomination. They really don't.


At Friday, December 14, 2007 11:21:00 PM, Blogger Dave Oatney said...

Unlike most Dems, these actually vote.

Regular primary voters are who regularly vote are who decide nominations.

At Sunday, December 16, 2007 4:36:00 PM, Blogger SteveMule said...

Your absolutely right - Voters that vote in primary elections pick the candidates. True - but what I'm saying is balance the Dems in White Pines with ... oh, say, the Dems in Memphis that will vote in the primary. The population sample you used for your analysis is skewed. If Oboma does not get the nomination it won't be because the Dems in White Pines think he's some closet Muslim.


At Saturday, November 08, 2008 4:39:00 AM, Anonymous Jack said...

Wow I have yet to meet a Republican that was aware on any important issues regarding the candidates. They cannot tell me what Obama's tax or healthcare concepts will do for them vs. McCain's or anything about Obamas foreign policy vs McCains, but they sure as heck know Barack's middle name is Hussein. Bunch of small, sad, ignorant people.


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